AMD corrects the shot on Ryzen 7000
On the occasion of Computex 2022, AMD showed new benchmarks and details on the Ryzen 7000 "Raphael" processors, which will be built on TSMC's 5nm process node, as well as based on the Zen 4 architecture which will introduce several improvements, including an IPC higher, support for technologies such as DDR5 and PCI Express 5.0 and the integration of an RDNA 2-based GPU.Apparently, the Sunnyvale-based company has made a mistake, as it has been reported that the AM5's Package Power Tracing (PPT), i.e. the maximum amount of power the socket is capable of delivering to the CPU, would have been 170W, when in reality it is 230W. Furthermore, AMD was keen to specify that the tests shown during Computex 2022 were obtained with a pre-production sample that was operating with a TDP of less than 170W.
AMD wants to make a correction to the power and TDP limits of the upcoming AM5 socket. The AMD AM5 socket supports a TDP of up to 170W with a maximum PPT of 230W. TDPx1.35 is the standard calculation to derive the PPT from the TDP on AMD sockets of the "Zen" era and in this case the final result is 229.5 (170 × 1.35).
This new TDP will significantly increase computing performance for high-core CPUs in heavy workloads, alongside the 65W and 105W TDP processors that Ryzen is known for today. AMD takes great pride in providing the enthusiast community with transparent and clear product features, and we want to take this opportunity to apologize for our mistake and any confusion we may have caused on this topic.
Over the course of the 'latest episode of PCWorld's "The Full Nerd" webcast, Robert Hallock (AMD Director of Technical Marketing) and Frank Azor (Chief Architect of Gaming Solutions) intervened to answer some questions and reveal new details about the AMD Ryzen 7000 processors and the news of the AM5 platform. All the details in our previous dedicated article.
AMD changes is statements, Ryzen 7000 will consume up to 230W
After constantly assuring the press and fans that the 170W exhibited at Computex 2022 was the maximum power of the socket, the company has officially verified that the amount is, in fact, the maximum TDP specification for the Ryzen CPU.
This does not imply that the Ryzen 7000 CPUs would have a variant with a TDP of 170 W, as AMD's Robert Hallock stated only two days ago that the value of 170 W was from the PPT, which is the maximum power for the socket. The increased maximum power for the socket of 230 W is nearly as high as the Core i9-12900K for Intel's LGA1200 socket, which offers a maximum load of approximately 241 W.
“AMD would like to correct the maximum socket power and TDP limits of the upcoming Socket AM5. Socket AM5 socket supports up to 170W TDP with up to 230W PPT. TDP*1.35 is the standard calculation for TDP vs. PPT for AMD sockets in “Zen”.
“This new TDP will enable significantly higher compute performance for high core count CPUs under heavy workloads, where we will have other 65W and 105W TDP models that Ryzen is known for today. AMD prides itself on providing the enthusiast community with products with the best transparency, and we want to take this opportunity to apologize for our mistake and any confusion we may have caused on this issue.'
So in short: Power Specs: 230W Peak Power, 170W TDP.
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#6020812 Posted on: 05/27/2022 11:23 AMI don't like the direction they're heading with the power usage, but it's *STILL* lower power than intel (16 full cores vs. 8 full and 8 mini ones), and probably a good chunk faster. Price will tell, I guess! (and how long the silicon can last under those conditions)
#6020816 Posted on: 05/27/2022 11:25 AMHonestly, I'm just really curious to see how @Hilbert Hagedoorn tests them, and with what methodology and hardware. It's tricky to do anyway, since it seems like a feature highly dependant on cooling, which is NEVER the same for any two rigs.Results may vary.
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